Comments on: inexpensive residential wind turbine http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/03/14/inexpensive-residential-wind-turbine/ The Alternative Consumer provides product reviews, eco news and green info to the next wave of smart consumers. Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:44:25 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v= hourly 1 By: Dana Fitrakis http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/03/14/inexpensive-residential-wind-turbine/comment-page-3/#comment-339399 Dana Fitrakis Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:55:06 +0000 http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/03/14/inexpensive-residential-wind-turbine/#comment-339399 Hello, I am a newly retired and disabled police officer (line of duty injury) and I am new to this technology but my family and I have decided to move from Michigan to Oklahoma and are interested in getting off the grid. I am currently looking at a large piece of land (300 acres) and a working ranch. With that size of property how much of investment in money would it take to power a 3500 sq ft house and the 4 out buildings with power that would come from a wind turbine or turbines and or solar energy. What is the best combination and how do you store the energy for calm cloudy days? Any advice or direction is appreciated and I do not know if the email will post but here it is in case you want to send something. We are going to try and and be completely self suffiecient after our move thus we are buying a place with livestock, huge canning shed, stocked ponds and a river, and plan to do some farming on the land as well. The bottom line is any range you may think I should budget for wind/solar energy program or setup so that while we are attached to the grid we would use none of it or close to it. We are putting in a wood burner that heats the house, barns, pool, and garage and that was not terribly costly and we are going to use the timber on our property as we have about 80 acres of it and just continually replant and add more to another section. We just do not want to rely on a government that seems inept anymore. thanks and I look forward to hearing your ideas and information this is a great forum to have. Dana Hello, I am a newly retired and disabled police officer (line of duty injury) and I am new to this technology but my family and I have decided to move from Michigan to Oklahoma and are interested in getting off the grid. I am currently looking at a large piece of land (300 acres) and a working ranch. With that size of property how much of investment in money would it take to power a 3500 sq ft house and the 4 out buildings with power that would come from a wind turbine or turbines and or solar energy. What is the best combination and how do you store the energy for calm cloudy days? Any advice or direction is appreciated and I do not know if the email will post but here it is in case you want to send something. We are going to try and and be completely self suffiecient after our move thus we are buying a place with livestock, huge canning shed, stocked ponds and a river, and plan to do some farming on the land as well. The bottom line is any range you may think I should budget for wind/solar energy program or setup so that while we are attached to the grid we would use none of it or close to it. We are putting in a wood burner that heats the house, barns, pool, and garage and that was not terribly costly and we are going to use the timber on our property as we have about 80 acres of it and just continually replant and add more to another section. We just do not want to rely on a government that seems inept anymore.

thanks and I look forward to hearing your ideas and information this is a great forum to have.
Dana

]]> By: RHONDA REICHEL http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/03/14/inexpensive-residential-wind-turbine/comment-page-3/#comment-328480 RHONDA REICHEL Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:26:52 +0000 http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/03/14/inexpensive-residential-wind-turbine/#comment-328480 WE PAID PACWIND $11,175.00 IN FEBRUARY 2008 FOR A WIND TURBINE AND NEVER GOT IT. AFTER FILING A LETTER OF DEMAND THROUGH AN ATTORNEY WE GOT A CALL IN JAN. 2009 APOLOGIZING FOR THE DELAY AND OFFERING A $1000.00 REFUND FOR THE DELAY AND PROMISING DELIVERY IN A FEW MONTHS. I NEVER RECEIVED IT NOR DID WEPOWER ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY AS THEY BOUGHT OUT PACWIND. PACWIND DOESN'T RETURN CALLS AND I FILED A COMPLAINT WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IN CALIFORNIA. I AM WONDERING IF I WILL GET A RESPONSE. THIS CLEARLY IS CONSUMER FRAUD. LIVING WITH ED AND JAY LENO WHO PROMOTED PACWIND ON THEIR TV SHOWS DID NOT RESPOND EITHER. ED BEGLEY JR HAD AN EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT TO PROMOTE PACWIND AND ON HIS RECOMMENDATION FROM HIS TV SHOW I FELL FOR IT. I FEEL CHEATED. WE PAID PACWIND $11,175.00 IN FEBRUARY 2008 FOR A WIND TURBINE AND NEVER GOT IT. AFTER FILING A LETTER OF DEMAND THROUGH AN ATTORNEY WE GOT A CALL IN JAN. 2009 APOLOGIZING FOR THE DELAY AND OFFERING A $1000.00 REFUND FOR THE DELAY AND PROMISING DELIVERY IN A FEW MONTHS. I NEVER RECEIVED IT NOR DID WEPOWER ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY AS THEY BOUGHT OUT PACWIND. PACWIND DOESN’T RETURN CALLS AND I FILED A COMPLAINT WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IN CALIFORNIA. I AM WONDERING IF I WILL GET A RESPONSE. THIS CLEARLY IS CONSUMER FRAUD. LIVING WITH ED AND JAY LENO WHO PROMOTED PACWIND ON THEIR TV SHOWS DID NOT RESPOND EITHER. ED BEGLEY JR HAD AN EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT TO PROMOTE PACWIND AND ON HIS RECOMMENDATION FROM HIS TV SHOW I FELL FOR IT. I FEEL CHEATED.

]]> By: Helpful Stranger http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/03/14/inexpensive-residential-wind-turbine/comment-page-3/#comment-322302 Helpful Stranger Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:46:34 +0000 http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/03/14/inexpensive-residential-wind-turbine/#comment-322302 Well the BBB issued a warning about freetricity almost a year ago: http://www.la.bbb.org/GIReport.aspx?NewsID=164 It's safe to say that they were not a good company to do buisness with. I'm posting to further warn people about American Home Wind and Solar which is another alternative energy company that originated in Hemet California and at one time Linda Vettes (Carl's wife) was listed as a company representative. AMERICANHOMEWINDANDSOLAR(dot)COM was registered on 9-19-08 which was the after much negative publicity surfaced against freetricity and soon before the BBB issued the warning I linked to above. The company was originally said to be located in the same city as freetricity. The wife of freetricity founder Carl Vettes works (worked?) for American Home Wind and Solar. These facts taken together make me suspect that anyone doing buisness with A.H.W.S. should expect no better results than if they were dealing with freetricity. Well the BBB issued a warning about freetricity almost a year ago:

http://www.la.bbb.org/GIReport.aspx?NewsID=164

It’s safe to say that they were not a good company to do buisness with. I’m posting to further warn people about American Home Wind and Solar which is another alternative energy company that originated in Hemet California and at one time Linda Vettes (Carl’s wife) was listed as a company representative.

AMERICANHOMEWINDANDSOLAR(dot)COM was registered on 9-19-08 which was the after much negative publicity surfaced against freetricity and soon before the BBB issued the warning I linked to above. The company was originally said to be located in the same city as freetricity. The wife of freetricity founder Carl Vettes works (worked?) for American Home Wind and Solar. These facts taken together make me suspect that anyone doing buisness with A.H.W.S. should expect no better results than if they were dealing with freetricity.

]]> By: Troy http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/03/14/inexpensive-residential-wind-turbine/comment-page-3/#comment-312663 Troy Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:15:46 +0000 http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/03/14/inexpensive-residential-wind-turbine/#comment-312663 OK I know I have stripped the hide right off this poor dead horse. However I promised to report court happenings and the fact is that these post help keep Carl Vettes, Carl Vetts, Glenn Hunt, Linda Vettes, Freetricity, and now American Home Wind and Solar on the first page of the search engines so maybe anyone smart enough to do a little checking will not be taken in by this criminal. In an effort to put off the court action I had filed against him, Carl trumped my case by filing one of his own in a higher court. He got exactly what he wanted. A big delay. This morning that all finally ended with Carl once again showing his true colors. The case he had filed was dismissed as he failed to show up in court for the second time. Yep despite all his ranting in here he just no showed. Of course it remains to be seen what he will do about the cross compliant that I filed. I am not sure what part of "I will never give up" he is having trouble with. Keep your eyes open Carl changed the name of his golf scam at least four times. OK I know I have stripped the hide right off this poor dead horse. However I promised to report court happenings and the fact is that these post help keep Carl Vettes, Carl Vetts, Glenn Hunt, Linda Vettes, Freetricity, and now American Home Wind and Solar on the first page of the search engines so maybe anyone smart enough to do a little checking will not be taken in by this criminal.

In an effort to put off the court action I had filed against him, Carl trumped my case by filing one of his own in a higher court. He got exactly what he wanted. A big delay. This morning that all finally ended with Carl once again showing his true colors. The case he had filed was dismissed as he failed to show up in court for the second time. Yep despite all his ranting in here he just no showed. Of course it remains to be seen what he will do about the cross compliant that I filed. I am not sure what part of “I will never give up” he is having trouble with. Keep your eyes open Carl changed the name of his golf scam at least four times.

]]> By: Carl Beekman, Ph.D. http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/03/14/inexpensive-residential-wind-turbine/comment-page-3/#comment-289171 Carl Beekman, Ph.D. Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:33:52 +0000 http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/03/14/inexpensive-residential-wind-turbine/#comment-289171 May I have more information on the roof-mounted turbine? Will it withstand hurricanes? May I have more information on the roof-mounted turbine?

Will it withstand hurricanes?

]]> By: rd http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/03/14/inexpensive-residential-wind-turbine/comment-page-3/#comment-275033 rd Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:45:27 +0000 http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/03/14/inexpensive-residential-wind-turbine/#comment-275033 You've got a nice tall tower. Looks like the wind is picking up. What has been the impact on your electric bill? You’ve got a nice tall tower. Looks like the wind is picking up. What has been the impact on your electric bill?

]]> By: Jason Keiter http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/03/14/inexpensive-residential-wind-turbine/comment-page-3/#comment-274450 Jason Keiter Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:57:34 +0000 http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/03/14/inexpensive-residential-wind-turbine/#comment-274450 We have a Skystream 3.7 near Sacramento, CA. 70' cable tower. So far here are the #'s. March:268KWH, April:320KWH, May:415KWHrs, June:748KWH. We have a Skystream 3.7 near Sacramento, CA. 70′ cable tower. So far here are the #’s. March:268KWH, April:320KWH, May:415KWHrs, June:748KWH.

]]> By: DonkeyKong http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/03/14/inexpensive-residential-wind-turbine/comment-page-3/#comment-273620 DonkeyKong Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:41:52 +0000 http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/03/14/inexpensive-residential-wind-turbine/#comment-273620 Oh, BTW Freetricity BBB rating is "F"...but hey Barak just loves these alternative fuel source proprietors, so its all good. http://www.la.bbb.org/BusinessReport.aspx?CompanyID=100038657 Oh, BTW Freetricity BBB rating is “F”…but hey Barak just loves these alternative fuel source proprietors, so its all good.

http://www.la.bbb.org/BusinessReport.aspx?CompanyID=100038657

]]> By: DonkeyKong http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/03/14/inexpensive-residential-wind-turbine/comment-page-3/#comment-273619 DonkeyKong Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:37:10 +0000 http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/03/14/inexpensive-residential-wind-turbine/#comment-273619 It seems as though Freetricity is now working out of a home in hemet, ca....and is involved in several lawsuits. They have also been listed on a few consumer complaint sites. http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/344/RipOff0344451.htm It seems as though Freetricity is now working out of a home in hemet, ca….and is involved in several lawsuits. They have also been listed on a few consumer complaint sites.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/344/RipOff0344451.htm

]]> By: Themonkstale http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/03/14/inexpensive-residential-wind-turbine/comment-page-3/#comment-269992 Themonkstale Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:49:34 +0000 http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/03/14/inexpensive-residential-wind-turbine/#comment-269992 I recently purchased 6 new 6 bladed 59" wind turbines . They are Wind Scorpion Light Breeze Wind Turbines and per the manufacturer generate energy at 3.5 mph. They also claim to produce 1000 watts at 58 mph. I am in a low wind zone that averages about 5-7 mph but frequently have fluctuating wind gusts. Their graph would indicate approximately 50 watts of power at about 10 mph. I am assuming I will create a little less than that to be on the conservative side. Anyone out there have experience with this model and is approx 200-250 watts an hour a pretty safe assumption? I am going to use Missouri Wind and Solar. The product can be seen on their website at MissouriWindandSolar.com I recently purchased 6 new 6 bladed 59″ wind turbines . They are Wind Scorpion Light Breeze Wind Turbines and per the manufacturer generate energy at 3.5 mph. They also claim to produce 1000 watts at 58 mph. I am in a low wind zone that averages about 5-7 mph but frequently have fluctuating wind gusts. Their graph would indicate approximately 50 watts of power at about 10 mph. I am assuming I will create a little less than that to be on the conservative side. Anyone out there have experience with this model and is approx 200-250 watts an hour a pretty safe assumption? I am going to use Missouri Wind and Solar. The product can be seen on their website at MissouriWindandSolar.com

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