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	<title>Comments on: R Martin EVD &#8211; a quick, quiet, electric scooter</title>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/10/03/r-martin-evd-a-quick-quiet-electric-scooter/comment-page-1/#comment-318597</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 05:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been quite pleased with the R Martin EVD. Great scooter for the money. I&#039;ve gotten mine to go about 53 mph on a flat surface and can get about 40 miles per charge and I live in a fairly hilly area. I wish the scooter would handle bumps a little better, but overall it&#039;s a smooth ride and handles nicely. Overall rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars. Value rating: 5 out of 5 stars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been quite pleased with the R Martin EVD. Great scooter for the money. I&#8217;ve gotten mine to go about 53 mph on a flat surface and can get about 40 miles per charge and I live in a fairly hilly area. I wish the scooter would handle bumps a little better, but overall it&#8217;s a smooth ride and handles nicely. Overall rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars. Value rating: 5 out of 5 stars.</p>
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		<title>By: KCavell</title>
		<link>http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/10/03/r-martin-evd-a-quick-quiet-electric-scooter/comment-page-1/#comment-305858</link>
		<dc:creator>KCavell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heads up to anyone who may have found this view a search engine while 

looking for a reliable electric vehicle - the R Martin EVD is NOT for 

you.

I purchased the EVD from Randall Martin (via his website) last year 

after reading the sparse reviews out there that seemed mostly positive.  

From the minute it arrived things went poorly.

First, the company he uses (SAIA shipping) to deliver the bikes fails 

utterly.  They could not deliver the bike to our door because they only 

use semi trucks and our residential street had wires too low.  That 

means they left the bike, wrapped in a box wrapped in a banged up, 

rusted metal cage, 1 block from our house, in the middle of the street, 

with only my husband (I was at work) to unpack and move the bike down to 

the house (which I might mention is at the bottom of a large hill).  Oh, 

and it was mid summer in Florida, so 95+ degrees and humid.  The driver 

happily left him alone to do what is clearly (as stated in the manual, 

conveniently located INSIDE the giant contraption) a two person job.  

After several trips up and down the hill to get various tools, my 

husband was finally able to free the bike from its packaging, but in the 

process ended up with it falling on him once and almost another time 

(and they are heavy - almost 400 lb).

We charged it that day and come evening tried it out - only to find out 

it was not capable of even driving up our hill (it literally stopped 

midway up, on a full battery, and made a dragging sound near the rear 

brakes.

To make a long, aggravating story short, after contacting the dealer on 

a near daily basis (and then him contracting the manufacturer, in 

Japan), performing hours of labor ourselves on it (trying to replace the 

brakes several times, etc. - he wouldn&#039;t pay for labor, would only 

provide replacement parts based on our amateur description of what 

seemed to be wrong and some videos we emailed) and even eventually 

taking it to a shop for brake replacement, the thing still does not work 

as intended (sometimes can make it up the hill, sometimes can not - even 

on a full charge and on the same day) and Randall Martin eventually 

ignored my emails until we were forced to contact a lawyer (never had a 

reason to do that before).  

He now states it is too far past the time frame for return, but it was 

he who refused to return my email and never offered to return the bike.

Mind you, I was somewhat skeptical of making such a large purchase 

online, but there were no dealers of fast, fully electric bikes like the 

EVD in our area.  Also, I emailed him twice before making the purchase 

to ask questions and even specifically asked about shipping and whether 

he would take the bike back should it have any problems.  He assured us 

that he would try to fix it via parts but if that didn&#039;t work, would 

have it returned (and also stated he had never had a shipping problem).  

Summary:  I truly hope no one has to fall for this money trap like my 

husband and I did.  Find a local dealer if you want an electric  

vehicle, test drive it well and know the return policy backwards and 

forwards.  And whatever you do, I implore you not to purchase from 

Randall Martin (at least for his larger vehicles such as the EVD).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heads up to anyone who may have found this view a search engine while </p>
<p>looking for a reliable electric vehicle &#8211; the R Martin EVD is NOT for </p>
<p>you.</p>
<p>I purchased the EVD from Randall Martin (via his website) last year </p>
<p>after reading the sparse reviews out there that seemed mostly positive.  </p>
<p>From the minute it arrived things went poorly.</p>
<p>First, the company he uses (SAIA shipping) to deliver the bikes fails </p>
<p>utterly.  They could not deliver the bike to our door because they only </p>
<p>use semi trucks and our residential street had wires too low.  That </p>
<p>means they left the bike, wrapped in a box wrapped in a banged up, </p>
<p>rusted metal cage, 1 block from our house, in the middle of the street, </p>
<p>with only my husband (I was at work) to unpack and move the bike down to </p>
<p>the house (which I might mention is at the bottom of a large hill).  Oh, </p>
<p>and it was mid summer in Florida, so 95+ degrees and humid.  The driver </p>
<p>happily left him alone to do what is clearly (as stated in the manual, </p>
<p>conveniently located INSIDE the giant contraption) a two person job.  </p>
<p>After several trips up and down the hill to get various tools, my </p>
<p>husband was finally able to free the bike from its packaging, but in the </p>
<p>process ended up with it falling on him once and almost another time </p>
<p>(and they are heavy &#8211; almost 400 lb).</p>
<p>We charged it that day and come evening tried it out &#8211; only to find out </p>
<p>it was not capable of even driving up our hill (it literally stopped </p>
<p>midway up, on a full battery, and made a dragging sound near the rear </p>
<p>brakes.</p>
<p>To make a long, aggravating story short, after contacting the dealer on </p>
<p>a near daily basis (and then him contracting the manufacturer, in </p>
<p>Japan), performing hours of labor ourselves on it (trying to replace the </p>
<p>brakes several times, etc. &#8211; he wouldn&#8217;t pay for labor, would only </p>
<p>provide replacement parts based on our amateur description of what </p>
<p>seemed to be wrong and some videos we emailed) and even eventually </p>
<p>taking it to a shop for brake replacement, the thing still does not work </p>
<p>as intended (sometimes can make it up the hill, sometimes can not &#8211; even </p>
<p>on a full charge and on the same day) and Randall Martin eventually </p>
<p>ignored my emails until we were forced to contact a lawyer (never had a </p>
<p>reason to do that before).  </p>
<p>He now states it is too far past the time frame for return, but it was </p>
<p>he who refused to return my email and never offered to return the bike.</p>
<p>Mind you, I was somewhat skeptical of making such a large purchase </p>
<p>online, but there were no dealers of fast, fully electric bikes like the </p>
<p>EVD in our area.  Also, I emailed him twice before making the purchase </p>
<p>to ask questions and even specifically asked about shipping and whether </p>
<p>he would take the bike back should it have any problems.  He assured us </p>
<p>that he would try to fix it via parts but if that didn&#8217;t work, would </p>
<p>have it returned (and also stated he had never had a shipping problem).  </p>
<p>Summary:  I truly hope no one has to fall for this money trap like my </p>
<p>husband and I did.  Find a local dealer if you want an electric  </p>
<p>vehicle, test drive it well and know the return policy backwards and </p>
<p>forwards.  And whatever you do, I implore you not to purchase from </p>
<p>Randall Martin (at least for his larger vehicles such as the EVD).</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
		<link>http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2008/10/03/r-martin-evd-a-quick-quiet-electric-scooter/comment-page-1/#comment-128853</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 01:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be advised, these chinese scooters have a 80% rate of breakdown</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be advised, these chinese scooters have a 80% rate of breakdown</p>
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