Comments on: marcal – small steps for a greener planet http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2009/03/03/marcal-small-steps-for-a-greener-planet/ The Alternative Consumer provides product reviews, eco news and green info to the next wave of smart consumers. Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:20:56 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v= hourly 1 By: Hank http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2009/03/03/marcal-small-steps-for-a-greener-planet/comment-page-2/#comment-379160 Hank Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:27:05 +0000 http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/?p=8063#comment-379160 If Marcal is so concerned about the environment, why don't they: 1) Tell us how to use less paper. There are many ways. Cloth napkins, hanky's and towels all make much more eco-sense. You can use discarded clothes, and be much more green 2)Stop shipping product made in NJ, across the US. Would make a much bigger environmental impact. 3)Clean the river next to their plant, that they have polluted for 50 years and destroyed. Why not clean that up, with their illicit, false green claims? If you really do care. You can't walk away from your past. Even though they are trying. And a good PR campaign can win many awards. But facts, when properly examined, speak for themselves. If you think Marcal is eco-friendly, I am Santa Clause, Virginia. If Marcal is so concerned about the environment, why don’t they:
1) Tell us how to use less paper. There are many ways. Cloth napkins, hanky’s and towels all make much more eco-sense. You can use discarded clothes, and be much more green
2)Stop shipping product made in NJ, across the US. Would make a much bigger environmental impact.
3)Clean the river next to their plant, that they have polluted for 50 years and destroyed. Why not clean that up, with their illicit, false green claims? If you really do care. You can’t walk away from your past. Even though they are trying.
And a good PR campaign can win many awards. But facts, when properly examined, speak for themselves. If you think Marcal is eco-friendly, I am Santa Clause, Virginia.

]]> By: Ecofacts http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2009/03/03/marcal-small-steps-for-a-greener-planet/comment-page-2/#comment-376951 Ecofacts Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:44:16 +0000 http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/?p=8063#comment-376951 All of us at Marcal welcome valid criticism and open discussion on blogs (and everywhere), but we want you to know that “Hank” leaves comments like the one here anytime he or she sees something written about us…and leaves them anonymously or from a variety of different names, so there is no way we can get in touch and set the facts straight. The phrases used are always very similar, the kind of pattern that almost shouts, ”spam campaign.” This kind of nameless attack isn’t in the open spirit of blogs, and we think it’s a disservice to readers and to our hard-earned reputation. The simple fact is that we make our products in a manufacturing system designed to minimize our environmental impact. We invite the person making these attacks to come pay us a visit; we have noting to hide! We think our actions speak for themselves; otherwise, why would a group like the NRDC cite our factory in a discussion of companies leading the way environmentally in the New York metro area? (http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/egoldstein/green_apples_and_bad_apples_nr.html). Marcal didn’t recently “paint itself green.” We’ve been using recycled paper since 1950, long before green was in. As for the lawsuit, it was settled with no admission of wrong doing, enabling the company to emerge from bankruptcy to protect and grow jobs under a new owner and management team that understands that, if you are going to market yourself as green, you better do things right. Are we perfect? Of course not, but we are always striving to be better. We invite anyone with questions about our practices to contact us at ecofacts@marcal.com All of us at Marcal welcome valid criticism and open discussion on blogs (and everywhere), but we want you to know that “Hank” leaves comments like the one here anytime he or she sees something written about us…and leaves them anonymously or from a variety of different names, so there is no way we can get in touch and set the facts straight. The phrases used are always very similar, the kind of pattern that almost shouts, ”spam campaign.” This kind of nameless attack isn’t in the open spirit of blogs, and we think it’s a disservice to readers and to our hard-earned reputation. The simple fact is that we make our products in a manufacturing system designed to minimize our environmental impact.
We invite the person making these attacks to come pay us a visit; we have noting to hide! We think our actions speak for themselves; otherwise, why would a group like the NRDC cite our factory in a discussion of companies leading the way environmentally in the New York metro area? (http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/egoldstein/green_apples_and_bad_apples_nr.html).
Marcal didn’t recently “paint itself green.” We’ve been using recycled paper since 1950, long before green was in. As for the lawsuit, it was settled with no admission of wrong doing, enabling the company to emerge from bankruptcy to protect and grow jobs under a new owner and management team that understands that, if you are going to market yourself as green, you better do things right.
Are we perfect? Of course not, but we are always striving to be better. We invite anyone with questions about our practices to contact us at ecofacts@marcal.com

]]> By: Hank http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2009/03/03/marcal-small-steps-for-a-greener-planet/comment-page-2/#comment-366294 Hank Sun, 21 Feb 2010 20:03:58 +0000 http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/?p=8063#comment-366294 Marcal is the biggest air and water polluter in the state of New Jersey. They have been fined almost a billion dollars by the EPA, and do much more harm than good. They filed Chapter 11 to avoid paying for the clean up, and also used it as an opportunity to break their union contract. Nice guys, huh? Then when they emerged from bankruptcy, they painted themselves green. For them to claim to be a green, eco-friendly company is a joke, as well as a lie. Marcal is the biggest air and water polluter in the state of New Jersey. They have been fined almost a billion dollars by the EPA, and do much more harm than good. They filed Chapter 11 to avoid paying for the clean up, and also used it as an opportunity to break their union contract. Nice guys, huh? Then when they emerged from bankruptcy, they painted themselves green. For them to claim to be a green, eco-friendly company is a joke, as well as a lie.

]]> By: CJ Kilgore http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2009/03/03/marcal-small-steps-for-a-greener-planet/comment-page-2/#comment-355985 CJ Kilgore Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:08:14 +0000 http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/?p=8063#comment-355985 Wow, a lot of complaining here. I wasn't looking for or even aware of the Marcal products. I noticed it at Tops Markets (grocery store) in upstate NY; I was intrigued and bought their tissues. Pleased with the concept, was checking this site to see if it really is Green, or at least Green-ish. Tops in Batavia, NY has a fair amount of their products, which is surprising given the rather non-green thinking or caring nature of this area (not a particularly progressive area in many ways). So I'm surprised people looking for it can't find it, when I discovered it without looking for it. How odd. Wow, a lot of complaining here. I wasn’t looking for or even aware of the Marcal products. I noticed it at Tops Markets (grocery store) in upstate NY; I was intrigued and bought their tissues. Pleased with the concept, was checking this site to see if it really is Green, or at least Green-ish. Tops in Batavia, NY has a fair amount of their products, which is surprising given the rather non-green thinking or caring nature of this area (not a particularly progressive area in many ways). So I’m surprised people looking for it can’t find it, when I discovered it without looking for it. How odd.

]]> By: Mary E. http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2009/03/03/marcal-small-steps-for-a-greener-planet/comment-page-2/#comment-355430 Mary E. Sat, 23 Jan 2010 03:53:38 +0000 http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/?p=8063#comment-355430 I found a store in Kerrville, Texas that actually carries the Marcal products......SUPER-S. Thanks for stocking these products, I'm a believer in saving our planet. I found a store in Kerrville, Texas that actually carries the Marcal products……SUPER-S. Thanks for stocking these products, I’m a believer in saving our planet.

]]> By: Stevie http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2009/03/03/marcal-small-steps-for-a-greener-planet/comment-page-2/#comment-352543 Stevie Tue, 05 Jan 2010 21:49:52 +0000 http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/?p=8063#comment-352543 I actually found a coupon where the Marcal products are in our store. I was able to get a free roll and loved it! Our house only goes through one roll in a month or two so the 2 roll packages are great! I actually found a coupon where the Marcal products are in our store. I was able to get a free roll and loved it! Our house only goes through one roll in a month or two so the 2 roll packages are great!

]]> By: Jennifer http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2009/03/03/marcal-small-steps-for-a-greener-planet/comment-page-2/#comment-342934 Jennifer Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:14:18 +0000 http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/?p=8063#comment-342934 I keep finding coupons for your products, single paper towels, single toilet paper, but none of our stores here in Logan, Utah carry them. Do you have stores in the Salt Lake City, Utah area that carry the single rolls that the coupons are for? Thank you. Jennifer I keep finding coupons for your products, single paper towels, single toilet paper, but none of our stores here in Logan, Utah carry them.

Do you have stores in the Salt Lake City, Utah area that carry the single rolls that the coupons are for?

Thank you.
Jennifer

]]> By: Linda http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2009/03/03/marcal-small-steps-for-a-greener-planet/comment-page-2/#comment-335286 Linda Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:48:40 +0000 http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/?p=8063#comment-335286 I just bought a 24-roll package of Small Steps toilet paper. The price was reasonable, but the rolls, pretty small. Before even having used it, my one frustration upon opening the package was to discover that the rolls were wrapped in 6 four-packs, then rewrapped to sell as a package of 24 --too much unnecessary packaging! One giant step forward, perhaps, but a big one backwards too. I just bought a 24-roll package of Small Steps toilet paper. The price was reasonable, but the rolls, pretty small. Before even having used it, my one frustration upon opening the package was to discover that the rolls were wrapped in 6 four-packs, then rewrapped to sell as a package of 24 –too much unnecessary packaging! One giant step forward, perhaps, but a big one backwards too.

]]> By: h http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2009/03/03/marcal-small-steps-for-a-greener-planet/comment-page-2/#comment-311488 h Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:59:10 +0000 http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/?p=8063#comment-311488 couldn't find nothing here in southeast texas couldn’t find nothing here in southeast texas

]]> By: Lindsay http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/2009/03/03/marcal-small-steps-for-a-greener-planet/comment-page-2/#comment-305997 Lindsay Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:24:33 +0000 http://www.alternativeconsumer.com/?p=8063#comment-305997 The product locater for anyone who needs to find our product is up and running. Please find it at http://www.marcalpaper.com/findstore.html! The product locater for anyone who needs to find our product is up and running. Please find it at http://www.marcalpaper.com/findstore.html!

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